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I only have Wiki knowledge of Halo, but I think that 'Common Sue Traits' should be 'Common Sue and Stu Traits, as I've heard complaints about pretty blantant Gary Stus in this continuum.WikiM 12:02, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Not sure that it matters; 'Sue' is the default word to refer to suvians around here, as mentioned on the brand spanking new Mary Sue page Neshomeh just posted. Is there a significant difference between the behavior of male and female suvians in this continuum? If so, the title doesn't need to change, but the subsection should cover both sets of trends.Aster Corbett 16:04, December 12, 2011 (UTC)
I don't really know that it's a good idea to only label them Sues if there aren't that many in the continuum: in my experience hunting down Mass Effect badfic, I've encountered a LOT more Stus than I have Sues, to the point that Aveline Vagan is literally the only Sue from that continuum's badfic that I've managed to find on FF.net in a sea of Gary Stus. It's probably not applicable to Halo badfic, but from what I've seen Halo badfic Sues/Stus are predominantly Sues, so... I dunno. It might not hurt to make the distinction anyways as the Halo continuum is one of those things that you'd think would be filled with a lot more Stus than it actually is...Herr Wozzeck 11:42, December 12, 2011 (UTC)
That was what I was going for. WikiM 07:48, December 14, 2011 (UTC)
Funnily enough, in my personal experience, I find there are more Stus that are ODSTs and Sues that are Spartans, but it's probably closer to even. --Do not insult me. 08:52, December 14, 2011 (UTC)
I get what all of you are saying and all, but I really don't think it's necessary. Nowhere else is this done on the wiki, and the brand new Mary Sue page itself explains:
"However, "Mary Sue" can refer to any character fitting the definition, regardless of gender, and "Mary Sue," "she," and "her" are used as blanket nouns throughout PPC Wiki. "
By all means, break the section up and flesh it out explaining the difference between Sues and Stus in the continuum, but I don't really think the title needs to be changed in a special case from the entire Wiki. Aster Corbett 14:25, December 14, 2011 (UTC)
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